How To Remove Paper Backing From Vinyl Flooring On Wood
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On removing the newspaper-like backing left from fierce linoleum from floors
I may be left with only mechanical removal but I already tried rut from propane torch...too slow/smoky, tried "Goof Off" and while it works...it will gas anyone in the firm (I tried a small-scale exam patch (8X8 inches)...big mistake and at present information technology stinks all over the firm...prolly explosive also�no flames about)
The doctrine of nonresistance against arbitrary power, and oppression, is cool, slavish, and subversive of the adept and happiness of mankind.
Personal failures are too important to be trusted to others.
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Conscientious with some of the bankroll from Vinyl/linoleum floors. Some of information technology was asbestos - kinda greyness looking paper. I had good luck with spraying the remainder with h2o and using a 4" razor scraper to get the stuff upward.
"The pessimist complains near the air current; the optimist expects it to alter; the realist adjusts the sails."
-William A. Ward
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this stuff was put down in the eighty's and I understand that asbestos was not used by then
The doctrine of nonresistance against arbitrary ability, and oppression, is cool, slavish, and destructive of the skillful and happiness of mankind.
Personal failures are too important to be trusted to others.
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Well, the kitchen flooring that I took upwardly was in a firm built in '79. Supposedly, the apply of asbestos backing was banned in '78, but I was told that product with the asbestos lingered in stock for several years thereafter.
Just lookin' out for your wellness!
"The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails."
-William A. Ward
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I'll be careful...this firm was already checked for the stuff past some government bureau...constitute it in the original floors but they're gone...(was upstairs)
The doctrine of nonresistance against arbitrary power, and oppression, is cool, slavish, and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind.
Personal failures are too important to be trusted to others.
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Soften it up with WD forty and then scrape while applying heat from a heat gun. No torch.
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Originally Posted past The Bigfella
WD40 is basically kerosene IIRC - I'd exist wary of spraying the floor with oil based products - as I said, depends what yous want to do side by side.....
I'1000 not going to argue the point, just that will get it up. Phillip didn't mention what was under the old linoleum. If it's wood, it will darken it at offset and then habiliment off.Last edited by Memphis Mike; 11-17-2008 at 10:29 PM.
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it's on physical...I'g planning on cermic tile next
The doctrine of nonresistance confronting arbitrary power, and oppression, is absurd, slavish, and destructive of the skillful and happiness of mankind.
Personal failures are too important to be trusted to others.
- I kinda thought that would be what happened...I need knee pads!
moisture information technology (water) - scrape it
The doctrine of nonresistance confronting capricious power, and oppression, is absurd, slavish, and destructive of the skilful and happiness of mankind.
Personal failures are likewise important to be trusted to others.
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Bigfella gave some good advice in regards to the spade. I scraped a concrete shop floor with a sharpened directly shovel and it saved my back and knees. It allows yous use to your legs as well as your arms.
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The scraper from the hardware looks like a decent tool. The edge may demand sharpening after a fleck of scraping on concrete .
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Whatsoever. The shovel works well.
edit: Distressing Pila, the "whatever" is for PG above, not y'all.
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I ain one of those scrapers, used information technology today in fact. Nifty tools, changeable blades, razor sharp. All-time method is to scrape a few times, turn it over, scrape a few times, turn it over, and then on. The blade lasts longer that way. Also, if you're putting down tile, don't worry about getting every little speck upwards. Our general method is to get up most (90%) of the linoleum backing, so soak the floor with warm water for a half hour and scrape again. If the h2o doesn't arrive come up, it tin stay. Also, look into possibly using an anti-fracture membrane on the cement before y'all tile. Redgard is a decent one, tin can be bought for $40/gallon at HD. Besides Phil, I'm going to PM y'all a good forum for your tile questions. All pros at that place, extremely knowledgeable and helpful.
Robert
"Theirs is the curse of the Gypsy blood..."
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Water is what got the same stuff off our concrete kitchen and bath floor. This was combined with the concrete polishers grinding it with their large diamond grinder thing. The concrete polisher guys tried a full range of chemicals/solvents on information technology before they gave up- maxim information technology was too hard to get off and would not end the job they had quoted for- I convinced them to try h2o and in no time they were making a fine slurry of a mess getting it off (the red oxide concrete helped by making a brilliant red dirty mess).
Obviously, if y'all are going to scrape it off, do yourself a favour and let information technology soak in for a long time- similar an old crusty baking dish. Might have to cover it with plastic or something while it soaks.
Sounds non like fun. Skillful luck.One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let usa pray nosotros have the wisdom to choose correctly.
Woody Allen
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Steven is working on making a slick similar the i in WB mag from an old truck spring. I would use something similar that or and Ice scraper with a long handle. If you want it to get real quick hire a floor sander and nail it off.
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I used to railroad train installers - among other things. It used to amuse me how many "professional" installers knew better ways of doing things than the manufacturers - "meliorate" adhesives, etc.... Those that used to just utilise a flooring sander are pretty much all dead now.
Aye Paul - if Phillip can get hold of a heavy floor scraper at a reasonable price - past all ways, catch it. I wouldn't bother driving the 40km round trip that it would take me to become one - I'd become the ane/2km to the big box and get what I described.
already have a heavy (weighted) scraper...I'm a stonemason...remember? I've not sharpened it though...it has a removable blade. It is used to knock mortar spills off concrete floors but the paper stuffr seems to ignore it...I idea about using some sort of razor like scraper merely hadn't gotton that far yetThe doctrine of nonresistance against arbitrary ability, and oppression, is absurd, slavish, and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind.
Personal failures are likewise important to exist trusted to others.
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The one in the photo Paul Girouard posted is what you want. Information technology has a eight" broad removable razor, and they are extremely abrupt. Blades are fairly cheap. Wear eye protection though, the blades are thin and can chip. Floor sanders are a bit overkill unless it's a huge room. The mess they make is tremendous, and the dust isn't exactly healthy for you.
Robert
"Theirs is the curse of the Gypsy blood..."
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The stuff on my floor was a little pasty, and so merely gunked up even the coarsest dust on the floor sander. Thus in the stop, a good soaking with water, and and so wet grinding it with the diamond blade grinder got it off. Even moisture grinding it was messy as hell.
Personally, I would exercise a range of test patches- water with lather, water with a mild acid, and whatsoever else you can concoct, to see what gets into the 'glue' the best.
One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to full extinction. Let us pray we take the wisdom to cull correctly.
Woody Allen
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You gotta be careful with soap, WD-twoscore, and solvents. Cement is very porous and will suck that stuff right upwardly, then preclude the tile mortar from sticking. Acid is overkill, simply probably constructive. The best low-grade acrid for cement is vinegar. As I said before, whatever the water doesn't loosen, can stay. If soaking it won't break it loose, then it won't come up loose later, then yous can tile over it.
Robert
"Theirs is the expletive of the Gypsy claret..."
- I'thou inclined to see it that fashion too...don't need to get compulsive about it
Y'all gotta exist careful with lather, WD-40, and solvents. Cement is very porous and will suck that stuff right upward, so prevent the tile mortar from sticking. Acid is overkill, simply probably effective. The best depression-grade acid for cement is vinegar. Equally I said before, whatsoever the water doesn't loosen, can stay. If soaking it won't break it loose, then information technology won't come loose later, so yous can tile over it.
The doctrine of nonresistance against arbitrary ability, and oppression, is absurd, slavish, and destructive of the skilful and happiness of mankind.
Personal failures are likewise important to exist trusted to others.
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Peradventure a stupid idea but perchance a grill stone would work.
- too hard to use in the first place and will undoubtably mucilage up the rock also
Maybe a stupid idea but peradventure a grill stone would work.
The doctrine of nonresistance confronting arbitrary ability, and oppression, is absurd, slavish, and subversive of the good and happiness of mankind.
Personal failures are also of import to be trusted to others.
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I recollect I've got the adjacent step figured out...the knife-like scrapers and water...I won't be doing information technology for a while every bit I take other things to work on offset
The doctrine of nonresistance against arbitrary ability, and oppression, is cool, slavish, and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind.
Personal failures are too of import to exist trusted to others.
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Since this thread started, I've had to scrape two floors already, and have to do some other ane tomorrow. Guess I needed the exercise!
Robert
"Theirs is the curse of the Gypsy blood..."
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there's nothing wrong with making your ain tools...to be dependant on "factory" made tools is non much toward existence a craftsman...
I could lay brick with a shingle for a trowell but information technology'd be slower...the brick would be laid merely as well though
special fabricated tools is a fiscal decison and not a matter of "doing it right"
The doctrine of nonresistance confronting capricious ability, and oppression, is absurd, slavish, and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind.
Personal failures are also important to exist trusted to others.
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I used to remove/install commercial flooring. Corridors worth in hospitals and such over concrete and this was the simply manner nosotros could make coin at it.
You can rent one relatively cheap at around 50-60.00/day. It will get correct upwards to the walls and under the toe kick of cabinets. I have remove VA, VC tiles too with information technology, even those installed with that wonderful cutback adhesive from hell. You even so have to go some spots with the razor scraper but when it is piffling islands of the backing it is alot easier. Just like a lawnmower with the mitt scraper, taking a half or quarter width at a time with the edge instead of head on into it. I preferred the smaller scraper because of the angle of attack downwardly low with an arc approach instead of straight lines.
Last edited by pipefitter; 11-20-2008 at 01:14 AM.
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If information technology were on wood, I could see using a special made razor scraper, but its on concrete, how long earlier the razor scraper is just as dull as an unsharpened shovel? Just wondering.
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He could rent a jackhammer and just remove the whole floor. Cascade a new one.
- Actually the scrapers suck on wood. They tend to bite into the wood similar a chisel. A dull blade is preferable there. On concrete, you plow the scraper over every few strokes to go on the blade sharp. I removed a linoleum over concrete flooring today, about ten years old, roughly 24 square feet, used one blade and took virtually 15 minutes. Linoleum is commonly over nice, smooth concrete, not similar a sidewalk. It'south non too difficult on the blades.
If information technology were on wood, I could see using a special fabricated razor scraper, just its on concrete, how long before the razor scraper is just as deadening as an unsharpened shovel? Just wondering.
Robert
"Theirs is the curse of the Gypsy blood..."
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